January 19, 2024
The
scope of the crisis in Gaza is becoming clearer; according to the UN, Israel is
creating conditions that are making life in Gaza impossible; but Israeli
leaders are unbothered
“We’re hearing
that food has entered Rafah, but hardly any gets to us. I swear to you by the
life of Allah and the life of my children: We are living in hell. For a week
and a half we have been in a house that was destroyed, without almost any
walls, without windows and without electricity. Our luck is that until a week
and a half ago there were Israeli soldiers in this house. We are living off the
garbage they left behind.”
– A., a resident
of the northern Gaza Strip, who relates that his family cannot move south,
because his wife is disabled
Hello to Italian
lawyer Francesca Albanese, who since 2022 has been serving as the United
Nations Special Rapporteur on the Occupied Palestinian Territories. What is the
situation today in Gaza?
“There is very
acute hunger there. The present quantity of food, despite the aid that is
entering, is insufficient. There is not enough food and water, and there are no
means for cooking. In the northern Strip there have been no functioning
bakeries since November 9. In the south, 44 percent of the people who replied
to questions in a survey conducted by the World Health Organization said they
are suffering from a serious degree of hunger, even though they ostensibly have
access to aid and food at a certain level. In the north there is no way to
check this, because the area is controlled by the Israel Defense Forces and no
one can enter. It’s possible that many more people there are suffering from
hunger. It’s beyond belief.”
Still, do you
have an estimate regarding the overall picture?
“A UN report
that was written last month states that one of every four people in the Gaza
Strip – that is, more than half a million people – is suffering from severe
hunger. In certain areas, nine of every 10 families might go through an entire
day without food. They simply have no food.”
UN policy in the
region is determined on the basis of your reports. Can you explain on what you
base the data you publish?
“We are talking
about reports of the UN’s World Food Program. They have teams on the ground
that monitor the food that is being allowed into the Strip; there is data about
the amount of food. I know nurses who went to work in hospitals in Gaza and
discovered that there is not enough food for the foreigners, either. Of course
there is not enough food for the [Israeli] hostages, either. There is
simply no food. There are other cases in the world of near-hunger, such as in
Afghanistan or Yemen, but the numbers in Gaza are higher. Take into account
that only 8 percent of the population receives aid from the UN.”
Why only 8
percent?
“One reason is
that there is no access to the north. The second reason is Israel’s heavy
bombing, including in areas that the IDF has declared to be safe. This is a
region of harsh warfare; it is not a normal situation. There are many
difficulties. So, what there is, is not sufficient, and what there is does not
reach everyone. You know, it’s difficult to provide assistance to 1.9 million
displaced persons. They no longer have a home. They are crowding into places of
shelter. There are 1.4 million people who are living in places like schools or
hospitals that are no longer active. How can aid be provided to so many people
when everything is bombed, when there are not even any bakeries, when nothing
is normal? Gaza is destroyed.”
Do you think
that the government of Israel and the IDF understand that this is the
situation? Because they are saying very different things.
“I think they
know exactly what they are doing. Israel knows everything that is happening in
Gaza, and now it also has soldiers on the ground. They know exactly what they
are doing, Nir.”
Francesca P.
Albanese
Do you think
that Israel is deliberately depriving civilians of food?
“Israel is
creating the conditions that are making life in Gaza impossible. Yes,
definitely. We can talk about food, but here is something that haunts me: A
thousand children underwent amputations without anesthesia. Why aren’t they
[Israeli authorities] allowing anesthetics to enter? It’s a catastrophe. Do
they know that this is what is happening? Obviously they know. Israeli
politicians have declared that the population in Gaza is responsible for what
happened on October 7, and because of that they have abandoned all restraint.
Look, there is no way to justify Hamas, and I condemn the killing of the
civilians and the cruelty that was adopted, but what is happening today in Gaza
is beyond belief. There are 2.3 million Palestinians who are being denied resources
essential for their survival.”
Thank you,
Francesca, for this interview.
“Just one more
thing. I ask myself how what Israel is doing now to the Palestinians will make
Israel’s citizens safer. Israel is sowing the seeds for a far more radical
region in the years ahead. I am genuinely afraid of what will happen. Even if
the battles stop tomorrow, it will be difficult to rehabilitate Gaza, very
difficult. I think that Gaza has been destroyed. Look, I am not saying this out
of hatred for Israel, in fact the opposite is true. I only want Israel to be
safe without obliterating another people.”
“All my produce
died – tons of vegetables that could have fed half the children of Gaza.
Israeli tanks drove over some of my fields, and it’s too dangerous to enter the
ones that weren’t damaged. My family and I, who were well-off compared to most
Gazans, managed to get to the tent city in the south and we aren’t leaving.
People who know me are asking for handouts, for me to get them food, but I am
barely managing to help my family.”
– M., prominent
farmer from the central Gaza Strip
Hello to Sheren
Falah Saab, a Haaretz journalist who is in direct and continuous contact with
residents of Gaza and is covering the situation there. Recently you published
monologues from people suffering from hunger there (“Much harder for children’:
Severe hunger is spreading in Gaza. Four voices from a human catastrophe,” Jan.
4).
“Right. Before
the war I had never heard Gazans begging for help, for food – so mentally
broken. It’s hard to grasp the extent of the hunger crisis in Gaza, because it
reflects the profound moral nadir to which we on the Israeli side have sunk. If
this were a natural disaster, one could understand and come to terms with it,
but what is happening now is collective punishment through starvation, and I am
talking about children, women, elderly people. How can this be? Whom does it
benefit? The Gazans are being stripped of their humanity. What do they have
left? Nothing.”
Maha, 26, who
moved with her family from Gaza City to Rafah, related in her monologue that
the 22 members of her extended family had to make do with two cans of ful (fava
beans) a day and that she felt hungry all the time. Noel, 43, who arrived in
Rafah from Beit Lahia, said that her family was subsisting on date cookies
distributed once a day, and that one night her son woke up and cried that he
was hungry. Alham, 38, who was uprooted from Gaza City to Rafah, said her baby
nephew had stopped being breast-fed because his mother was too weak to produce
milk. Now, in the absence of baby formula, he cries from hunger all the time.
* * *
In routine times
and also in wartime, humanitarian operations in Gaza are handled by Maj. Gen.
Ghasan Alyan, the Israeli coordinator of government activities in the
territories. His organization, COGAT, is also the principal source – one could
almost say the exclusive source – of information for political and military
leaders about the humanitarian situation in the Strip. If it errs in
understanding the reality in Gaza, or is careless in its reports, that will
have direct implications for the decisions made in Israel and for the lives of
the 2.3 million inhabitants of the Strip.
A substantial
disparity seems to exist between the dire picture of Gaza described in UN
reports, and the situation on the ground as understood by leading political and
military figures in Israel. Perhaps they prefer not to know about it, but it’s
also possible that the reason for that disparity lies in a gap in the
information that comes from COGAT.
Hello to Col.
A., a representative of COGAT, which is responsible for supervising the
transfer of aid into Gaza. Is there hunger in the Gaza Strip today?
“To the best of
my understanding, and according to all the analyses we have conducted, there is
no hunger in Gaza, and for sure the population is not being starved.”
Desperate
residents scrambling to get food in the Gaza Strip, in November.
What are your
tools for determining that there is no hunger in the Strip?
“There are
facts. I am present at the border crossings. I see everything that is checked
by us and that enters the Strip. There is open-source intelligence, OSINT;
there are images in the social media. In addition, I conduct situation
appraisals twice a day with representatives of the international community. One
is with the UN agencies and the other is four-way: with us, the Americans, the
Egyptians and the UN.”
But leading
figures in the UN say there is severe hunger in Gaza.
“I haven’t read
an in-depth UN report about hunger. I have read reports by other organizations,
which conduct phone surveys. There’s no way to know how they do that and whom
they call.”
In your
situation appraisals, you don’t hear claims about hunger from the international
sources?
“No. I hear
requests to coordinate the movement of trucks [carrying food and other
humanitarian aid] and the transfer of goods to other places in the Strip, which
we are doing. Sometimes they explain that if a certain transfer does not take
place within a relatively short time frame, distress to the point of hunger
could develop. But it doesn’t come to that, because we coordinate the movement
of the trucks.”
Israel says that
70 tons of food have entered the Gaza Strip since the war began. Divide that by
90 days of fighting, and then among 2.3 million people, and you get less than
350 grams per day per person.
“Before the war,
the Strip was bursting with food. The warehouses and the supermarkets were
full. Both in the private sector, among the farmers, and in the UN’s
warehouses. The food industry worked vigorously – so that calculation is
nonsense. There were stockpiles of food in Gaza. Don’t forget that this is an
Arab, Gazan population whose DNA is to hoard, certainly when it comes to food.”
How long does it
take for a container from the moment it is unloaded in El Arish port, in Egypt,
until it gets to Gaza?
“About a week.
El Arish is a small port, there is no efficient unloading and packing company
there. The capacity is low. Besides that, there aren’t enough trucks in El
Arish [to transport all the food arriving there]. After dealing with
bureaucracy at the port, the trucks undergo inspection by Egyptian authorities
at Rafah. Trucks belonging to the Red Crescent and the UN are sent to be
checked by Israeli authorities.”
How many trucks
can you check a day?
“I’m able to
inspect more than 350 trucks a day, but the UN can’t absorb more than 190.”
Why?
“They don’t have
enough trucks. UNRWA [the UN refugee agency] has taken control of everything
and doesn’t allow other agencies to operate. When they took over and excluded
these other agencies, they didn’t adjust their logistics systems. They don’t
have drivers, there are no forklifts, there is no foreign workforce.”
Where are the UN
personnel?
“Only a few have
arrived from abroad. Even in Syria hundreds of auxiliary personnel arrived
during the war [there].”
And if they were
to come in droves, would you allow them to enter?
“Of course, but
they don’t need my authorization. They could fly into Cairo and travel to
Rafah. I don’t control the border crossings there. It’s easy for everyone to
blame Israel for everything.”
Let’s say the
world were to double the amount of food being sent to Gaza – would you agree to
and succeed in transporting it there?
“Yes.”
You wouldn’t
harm anything that’s related to humanitarian aid?
“Correct. The UN
warned about a humanitarian crisis long before the war. That’s ridiculous.
Never in all the period in which Hamas ruled there was the economic situation
better than in the run-up to the war.”
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* * *
Hello to Chili
Tropper, former culture and sports minister and member of the security cabinet,
from Benny Gantz’s National Unity Party. As we agreed, I’m calling you to talk
about the shortage of food in the Gaza Strip.
“Three months of
war will certainly generate a food shortage. I am convinced that there is a
shortage, but it wasn’t created in one day. The question is who started the
war. Hamas massacred, raped and abducted innocent citizens in civilian
communities – not on the battlefield. That starting point is important. Hamas
not only launched the war, they are also those who could stop it by laying down
their weapons and releasing the hostages. Those who are to blame and are
responsible for the serious humanitarian situation in Gaza are the leaders of
Hamas. They are the ones who are sacrificing the population.”
In the meantime,
we are hearing reports about hungry civilians. There is simply not enough food.
“Israel does not
have a starvation policy. On the contrary: This is an unprecedented situation
in which a country that is at war is permitting a lot of humanitarian aid to
come in while its hostages are still there and haven’t even met yet with the
Red Cross. We are trying to prevent a humanitarian disaster.”
Why doesn’t
Israel flood Gaza with food? After all, food can’t be used as a weapon against
you.
“We are in a
state of war with them. Every action is taken judiciously, after checking where
the shipment is going. To the best of my knowledge, the amount [of goods] that
is entering provides a reasonable response to the situation, but the
organizations involved are having difficulty making the aid available to the
entire population. There are not enough trucks, there isn’t enough manpower,
Hamas interferes and does damage. Hamas has an interest in creating a picture
of starvation and of a tremendous humanitarian disaster.”
In the present
situation, who is actually responsible for the civilian population in Gaza?
“The Strip is
presently in a situation of combat. Our responsibility is to allow third
parties to bring in humanitarian equipment for the benefit of the population.”
The Israeli
government says it is working to demolish Hamas’ regime, including the local
police, of course. Who is supposed to guard the aid trucks on the ground? Who
is responsible for paving the roads that were destroyed, which has made it
impossible for the trucks to get through?
“Ultimate
responsibility rests with Hamas, and despite that, we are operating as best we
can from the humanitarian point of view. I don’t feel responsible, but I also
don’t feel that I can completely disengage from dealing with this issue. The
conditions are very complicated. We are both allowing the entry of food and
also ascertaining that it reaches the population as much as possible. The IDF
is allowing the UN to move about in all areas. I don’t know if there is a
precedent for a country doing everything it can to bring food in to a
population, from within which that country is being fought. By the way, Hamas
enjoys very broad support from that population. And still, I don’t want to be
the mirror image of Hamas and to be cruel like them. I have permitted the entry
of thousands of trucks since the start of the war and am allowing the
Jordanians to parachute in humanitarian aid.”
The government
is forbidding Israeli organizations and private individuals to send goods of
any sort that originate in Israel into Gaza. Why? I understand that even
Israeli baby formula can’t be brought in.
“The state’s
strategic decision is to disconnect from Gaza. Commercial relations with it are
over. In the past we thought that the commercial relations were beneficial to
both sides. We were wrong. That’s finished.”
* * *
Hello to
Minister of Culture and Sports Miki Zohar, from Likud. To the best of your
knowledge, is there extensive hunger in the Gaza Strip?
“The answer is
no. What exists in the Strip is perhaps a shortage. There is no abundance
there, that’s for sure. Let’s put it this way: The shelves in the supermarkets
are not full. ‘Hunger’ is a very extreme term – that is not the situation in
Gaza. There is food there. Not like before the war, of course, but people there
are not in a state of absolute hunger. That is not the situation.”
Senior figures
in the UN, and not only the UN, are talking about hunger.
“Maybe they are
referring to the northern Strip, where the situation is in fact tougher,
because the supplies don’t reach there, and rightly so. Whoever is there needs
to go down to the southern part of the Strip. They will not have a shortage of
food and water there.”
Who is
responsible, in your opinion, for the basic sustenance of the residents of
Gaza?
“Until not long
ago it was the Hamas terrorist organization. We saw how much they cared about
their citizens. The only thing that interested them was to destroy Israel. From
the moment Hamas is not present, like in the northern Strip, every person is
responsible for himself, and those who will go south will meet up with the
international bodies there.”
But who is
responsible?
“According to
the information I have received, in the southern part of the Strip, Hamas is
still dealing with certain matters relating to civilian needs. When we finish
annihilating the organization, we will have to hand over the baton of civilian
administration to a particular body, whose identity we don’t yet know.”
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* * *
Hello to
attorney Oded Feller, head of the legal department at the Association for Civil
Rights in Israel. The UN is reporting severe hunger in the Gaza Strip. Where
are the civil organizations in this story?
“ACRI was among
those who approached President Biden, together with other organizations, to
address issues relating to human rights [in Gaza]. We realized that here in
Israel no one is paying attention to these things. We think that the American
involvement in this war is critical. The subject is indeed on the American
agenda.”
What about
petitioning the High Court of Justice?
“That doesn’t
stand a chance; there is no one to talk to. We appealed to them several times
on the most basic issues involving human rights, and they threw us out, tarred
and feathered. They don’t agree to intervene in anything. This isn’t the first
war in which there has been no point in approaching the High Court, for the
simple reason that it does not intervene. It’s not willing to discuss the
matter. Worse: Not only do you not achieve any positive result, you get a
judgment that legitimizes things.”
* * *
Hello to MK Zeev
Elkin from the National Unity Party, a member of the Knesset’s Foreign Affairs
and Defense Committee. Unlike your coalition colleagues, you think that Israel
should assume responsibility for civilian life in the Gaza Strip. Please explain.
“Israel is
trying to reduce as much as possible its engagement with civilian issues in
Gaza, for fear that in the end it will end up being responsible for them. But
with all due respect to fear, that is a shortsighted approach. We must give
consideration to all of the most basic issues and think how we prevent
humanitarian disasters. We are obliged to be in that picture. It’s impossible
to be a player who wants to change the diplomatic-political reality in the
Strip, and on the other hand behaves like someone who threw the keys into the
sea and has no connection. That doesn’t work. It makes no sense to operate in
Gaza and on the other hand not to address the civilian issue, and let Hamas
manage it. That is a major mistake. I’ve been saying that since the second day
of the war.”
It’s impossible to be a player who wants to change
the diplomatic-political reality in the Strip, and on the other hand behaves
like someone who has no connection. It makes no sense to operate in Gaza and on
the other hand not to address the civilian issue, and let Hamas manage it. That
is a major mistake.
Zeev Elkin
Is there hunger
in Gaza?
“There isn’t
just one Gaza today. There are many ‘Gazas.’ There is a dramatic difference
between the north and the south. There are 200,000 Gazans in the north, and
hardly any aid has reached there, and the situation there is a lot tougher. In
the south, aid has entered in very large quantities. The problem is who gets
the aid and where it goes. Are there people there who aren’t succeeding in
obtaining means of sustenance? I believe there are. Especially in the north. Is
that the general situation in all of Gaza? No. In any event, the major obstacle
is the Rafah crossing. Israel is not limiting the amount of aid.”
The question is
whether Israel is responsible now for the condition of the civilians in Gaza.
“The State of
Israel is trying to behave as though it’s not. I think that is a serious
mistake. Not only in terms of international law, and not only in terms of
morality and values, but also in terms of achieving the war’s aims. In the end,
the goal is diplomatic-political in nature: for Hamas not to rule in Gaza any
longer. People’s basic existence is a critical issue when it comes to achieving
that goal. Take, for example, a fisherman in Gaza. Until October 7, he was
dependent on Hamas for providing 20 percent of his needs. Now he’s sheltering,
and in most of the places of shelter, especially those belonging to UNRWA, the
managers are Hamas people. The manager of the shelter decides how much food and
water the man will receive, so his dependence on Hamas has risen to 100
percent. From this point of view, Hamas’ control of the population has become
stronger since the war started.”
And Israel is
not in the game.
“We are not
dealing at all with the aspects of civilian life there. We are agreeing to
allow aid in under international pressure and we are not involved in the
question of who is distributing it, whom it is being distributed to and how it
is being distributed. In this way we are strengthening Hamas’ control over the
population. I have been arguing for a long time that this approach must be
changed radically. We need to create an effective mechanism to manage civilian
life already at this stage, not in the distant future, and [to ensure that]
this mechanism will not rest on Hamas personnel.”
Do you feel
compassion for the noncombatants in Gaza?
“What you’re
asking is not easy [to answer]. When I think of that fisherman – maybe his son
was one of the Nukhba terrorists who infiltrated our communities? It’s a
complex issue. A large part of the [Gazan] population cooperated with Hamas and
also rejoiced and celebrated after the massacre. But in the end, in the
territories under our control, what happens there is our responsibility. It
doesn’t matter how much anger and alienation I feel with respect to the
population, in the end we will remain with them, whether we want to or not.
It’s impossible to evade the issue of what happens with them. It has to disturb
you, also in terms of the responsibility involved. It’s on us.”
Haaretz
approached war cabinet ministers Benny Gantz and Gadi Eisenkot with a request
to address the issue of hunger in Gaza. Neither of them responded.
Civilian Casualties in
Gaza are No Accident
An old legal adage states: “Men are
presumed to intend the natural consequences of their acts.”
The natural, indeed inescapable,
consequence of Israel’s cutting off life-sustaining supplies of food and water
to over 2 million people in Gaza is famine and mass death by starvation and
dehydration. As 90 percent of the people of Gaza have become refugees, 93
percent of the population is facing crisis levels of hunger.
Epidemics of cholera, typhoid, and
dysentery are also the natural consequence as sanitation systems collapse and
there’s only contaminated water to drink. Deaths from disease and hunger are
predicted to be several times that from fighting and bombing.
Who are most likely to die first?
Children, the elderly, and pregnant women. Who are least likely to be affected?
Hamas’s soldiers, who stockpiled food and water before the war.
Israel’s indiscriminate bombing has
killed over 22,000 Palestinians, 40 percent of them children. The pace of
killing has been “exceptionally high,” reports the New York Times. “It’s beyond
anything that I’ve seen in my career,” says a former Pentagon senior
intelligence analyst.
Israelis assert casualties are high
because Hamas uses civilians as “human shields.” But Hamas fighters are
intermixed with civilians because they live crammed together in densely
populated Gaza.
Even on its own terms, the excuse
fails. If a killer tries to escape capture by forcing an innocent family to
stand between himself and the police, the cops can’t mow them all down to get
the killer. If Hamas terrorists are surrounded by the people of Gaza, that
doesn’t justify eliminating the entire population.
“Israel’s liberal use of very large
weapons in dense urban areas, including U.S.-made 2,000-pound bombs that can
flatten an apartment tower, is surprising,” the Times report continued.
But it’s not a surprise if Israel in
fact intends the mass deaths it has inflicted. Calls for “erasing” the people
of Gaza and claims that “there are no innocents in Gaza” have become widespread
among Israeli officials.
Prime Minister Netanyahu has likened
the war in Gaza to a biblical call to “totally destroy” the Amalekites, a rival
nation to the ancient Israelites. “Do not spare them,” the prophet Samuel tells
King Saul: God commands you to “put to death men and women, children and
infants.” The idea of treating Palestinians this way is now widespread among
Israeli leaders.
Why deliberately target civilians?
Many Israelis consider all the territory between the Jordan River and the
Mediterranean to be the God-given “Land of Israel.” Butchering and starving
Palestinian noncombatants forces the survivors to flee this land.
“There will be no electricity and no
water,” decreed Israeli Major General Ghassan Alain at the outset of the war.
“There will only be destruction.” General Giora Eiland added: “Gaza will become
a place where no human being can exist.” Eiland said Palestinians should be
told, “They have two choices: to stay and to starve, or to leave.”
Last September at the United
Nations, Netanyahu himself displayed a map showing “The New Middle East.” The
map had no West Bank and no Gaza — only Israel incorporating both.
Members of Israel’s cabinet openly
call for removing 90 percent of Palestinians from Gaza and resettling the land
with Israelis. And Netanyahu recently told a meeting of his party that he is
“looking for countries that are willing to absorb Gazans … we are working on
it.”
Israel’s campaign in Gaza fits the
legal definition of genocide: Israel is killing or inflicting conditions
intended to bring about the destruction of Gazans as a group.
But whatever you call it, genocide
or ethnic cleansing, deliberate mass murder is part of the project. The Biden
administration should reconsider its support for Israel.
Why Won’t the Media
Suggest a Gaza Cease-Fire to Avoid Mid-East War?
In the breadth of stories that
covered the Biden administration's desire and efforts to avoid a wider
escalation of the Israel-Hamas conflict, mainstream media rarely mentioned the
clearest non-military pathway to easing regional tensions.
In the weeks leading up to President
Joe Biden’s announcement that U.S. forces and a group of allies launched a
series of strikes against Houthi targets in Yemen, major media outlets were
acutely aware of the risk that Israel’s war on Gaza could grow into a wider
regional conflict.
Yet, in the breadth of stories that
covered the Biden administration's desire and efforts to avoid such an
escalation, mainstream media rarely mentioned the clearest non-military pathway
to easing regional tensions: helping to broker a cease-fire between Israel and
Hamas.
The Houthi leadership in Yemen has
said their attacks will not cease until Israel’s “crimes in Gaza stop and food,
medicines, and fuel are allowed to reach its besieged population” according to
Houthi spokesman Mohammed al-Bukhaiti in December. Who can tell if that's true,
but evidence suggests that the attacks in the Red Sea and in Iraq and Syria all
but stopped during an earlier brokered “pause” in Gaza in November.
But this is never discussed. In the
first weeks of January, major media outlets maintained that the Biden
administration was grappling with how best to manage the conflict and ensure
that it did not extend beyond Gaza. Between October 7 and January 14, The New
York Times,The Washington Post, and The Wall Street Journal ran over 60
articles that focused on some aspect of the threat of escalation in the Middle
East. At least 14 of them focused on the Biden administration’s decision-making
process.
“Attacks Heighten Fears of a Wider
War for the Middle East and U.S.,” reported The New York Times.
“Tensions in the Middle East are
rising beyond Israel. Here’s where,” said The Washington Post.
“U.S. Steps Up Diplomatic Push to
Avert Broader Middle East War,” added The Wall Street Journal.
Even following the January 13
strikes in Yemen, media reports contended that the Biden administration was
committed to avoiding escalation. Mr. Biden and his top aides have been loath
to take steps that could draw the United States into a wider war in the region,
according to the New York Times.
But of those 14 articles, only five
mention the demands of U.S. adversaries in the region, namely that Israel allow
food and medicine into Gaza and end its bombing campaign. In most cases, the
articles only briefly note that the Houthi attacks were being carried out “in
solidarity” with suffering Gazans. But nowhere in the series of stories about
the potential crisis was the pursuit of a cease-fire mentioned as an option.
Instead, the articles mostly framed
the options as maintaining the status quo or pursuing a military solution.
“Senior officials said they must
decide whether to strike Houthi missile and drone sites in Yemen, or wait to
see whether the Houthis back off after the sinking of three of their fast boats
and the deaths of their fighters,” reported The New York Times on December 31,
after a U.S. helicopter sunk three Houthi boats in the Red Sea.
“Mr. Biden and his top aides have
sought since the Oct. 7 attacks to contain the conflict between Israel and
Hamas to the Gaza Strip,” reads The New York Times’ January 3 story on the
Biden team’s efforts. “The Pentagon dispatched two aircraft carriers and
doubled the number of American warplanes to the Middle East to deter Iran and
its proxies in Lebanon, Yemen, Syria, and Iraq from widening the war.”
If there were critics of the Biden
administration, they always preferred a more aggressive path. “Critics of the
administration’s approach have called the retaliatory strikes insufficient,”
said The Washington Post on November 8, following U.S. strikes in Syria.
Meanwhile, the reports ignored
experts who have been pointing to cease-fire as an option for weeks.
In making an argument for Washington
to take the lead in pushing for an end to violence in November 2023, three
fellows at the Century Foundation offered that a cease-fire would “reduce
tensions regionally, lessening the risk—currently increasing daily—of a broader
war that draws in the United States.”
A few hours before the strikes in
Yemen on January 11, RAND Corporation researcher Alex Stark made the case that
pushing for an end to the war in Gaza was the most effective way for Washington
to deescalate tensions with the Houthis.
“Like it or not, the Houthis have
linked their aggression to Israel’s operations in Gaza and have won domestic
and regional support for doing so,” she wrote in Foreign Affairs. “Finding a
sustainable, long-term approach to both conflicts will be critical to
deescalating tensions across the region and getting the Houthis to call off
their attacks on commercial vessels.”
Following the U.S. operations, The
New York Times did note that countries like Qatar and Oman “had warned the
United States that bombing the Houthis could be a mistake, fearing that it
would do little to deter them and would deepen regional tensions. They have
argued that focusing on reaching a cease-fire in Gaza would remove the Houthis’
stated impetus for the attacks.”
Experts have said that the inability
to link Houthi aggression with the ongoing war is a strategic miscalculation.
“That refusal to see the linkage between Gaza and the Red Sea means we also
fail to see the overriding security-strategic imperative here: to avoid a
further escalation regionally, and to move towards possibilities that are
deescalatory,” wrote the Carnegie Endowment’s H. A. Hellyer on X.
“[I]t's about avoiding a situation
that gets out of control quickly and easily, and which could have the potential
to drag much of the region into a destructive war. We have a number of clear
good pathways in that regard, but we've rejected them.”
To be sure, it is unclear how the
Houthis or militias in Iraq and Syria would respond to a pause in hostilities
in Gaza. But the short-term humanitarian pauses in Gaza in mid-November led to
the only period of relative calm in the region since the outbreak of the war,
particularly in terms of attacks on U.S. personnel in Iraq and Syria.
According to a tracker from The
Washington Institute for Near East Policy, as of January 16, there have been
152 anti-U.S. strikes since October 18 in those two countries. None of them
took place between November 23, when the short-term cease-fire was announced,
and December 3, two days after the truce expired.
There was also a notable decrease in
Houthi attacks in the Red Sea during that timeframe, according to a timeline
compiled by the maritime risk intelligence firm Ambrey Analytics.
“During the cease-fire that was in
place in November their attacks dramatically decreased, providing a degree of
empirical evidence that the cease-fire had a strong likelihood of being an
effective option to stop the attacks,” said Trita Parsi, executive vice
president of the Quincy Institute. “The media never had to endorse this option.
And they could also rightfully be scrutinizing and be skeptical about it. But
by not mentioning it at all, they deprived the American public awareness that
the option even existed, leaving Americans with the false impression that the
only option was to do nothing or to escalate by bombing Yemen.”
Meanwhile, momentum in the push for
a cease-fire in official Washington also appears to have hit a snag after
Congress’ return from the holiday recess. In the weeks following the start of
Israel’s offensive, perhaps influenced by polls that showed strong public
support, the number of members who explicitly called for a cease-fire increased
steadily, reaching a total of 62 by December 21.
Since then, however, only one new
member has joined the calls.
Several lawmakers from both parties
did criticize the White House for not consulting Congress before bombing Yemen.
Rep. Barbara Lee (D-Calif.) took it
a step further, drawing the direct link between Washington's unwillingness to
call for a cease-fire and the potential for escalation in the region. “This is
why I called for a cease-fire early. This is why I voted against war in Iraq,”
Lee wrote on X. “Violence only begets more violence. We need a cease-fire now
to prevent deadly, costly, catastrophic escalation of violence in the region.”
100 Days of War and
Resistance: Legendary Palestinian Resistance Will Be Netanyahu’s Downfall
Law number one in the ‘law of
holes’, is that “if you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.” Law number two,
“if you are not digging, you are still in a hole”.
These adages sum up Israel’s ongoing
political, military and strategic crises, 100 days following the start of the
war on Gaza.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin
Netanyahu was faced by the unprecedented challenge of having to react to a
major attack launched by Palestinian Resistance in southern Israel on October
7.
This single event is already proving
to be a game changer in the relationship between the Israelis and the
Palestinians. Its impact will be felt for many years, if not generations, to
come.
Netanyahu was already in a hole long
before the Al-Aqsa Flood operation took place, and he has no one else to blame
but himself.
To stay in power and to avoid three
major corruption cases and subsequent trials, Netanyahu labored to fortify his
position at the helm of Israeli politics with the help of the most extreme
government ever assembled, in a state whose very existence is an outcome of an
extremist ideology.
Even the anti-Netanyahu mass
protests throughout Israel, which also took place for months prior to the war,
did not alert the Israeli leader that the hole was getting deeper, and that the
Palestinians, living under a perpetual military occupation and siege, could
possibly find in Israel’s political and military crises an opportunity.
He simply kept on digging.
October 7 should not be perceived as
a surprise attack, since the entire Gaza Division, the massive Israeli military
build-up in the Gaza envelope, exists for the very purpose of ensuring that
Gaza’s subjugation and siege were perfected according to state-of-the-art
military technology.
According to the Global Firepower
2024 military strength ranking, Israel is number 17 in the world, mainly
because of its military technology.
This advanced military capability
meant that no surprise attacks should have been possible, because it is not
humans, but sophisticated machines that scan, intercept and report on every
perceived suspicious movement. In the Israeli case, the failure was profound
and multi-layered.
Subsequently, following October 7,
Netanyahu found himself in a much deeper hole. Instead of finding his way out
by, for example, taking responsibility, unifying his people or, God forbid,
acknowledging that war is never an answer in the face of a resisting, oppressed
population, he kept on digging.
The Israeli leader, flanked by
far-right ministers Itamar Ben-Gvir, Bezalel Smotrich and Amichai Eliyahu
worsened matters by using the war on Gaza as an opportunity to implement
long-dormant plans of ethnically cleansing Palestinians, not only from the Gaza
Strip but also the West Bank.
Were it not for the steadfastness of
the Palestinian people and strong rejection by Egypt and Jordan, the second
Nakba would have been a reality.
All mainstream Israeli politicians,
despite their ideological and political differences, unanimously outdid one
another in their racist, violent, even genocidal language. While Defense
Minister Yoav Gallant immediately announced that “there will be no electricity,
no food, no fuel, everything is closed” to the Gaza population, Avi Dichter
called for “another Nakba”.
Meanwhile, Eliyahu suggested the
‘option’ of “dropping a nuclear bomb on Gaza”.
Instead of saving Israel from itself
by reminding the Tel Aviv government that the genocidal war on Gaza would also
bode badly for Tel Aviv, the US Biden Administration served the role of
cheerleader and outright partner.
Aside from an additional $14 billion
of emergency aid package, Washington has reportedly sent, as of December 25,
230 airplanes and 20 ships loaded with armaments and munitions.
According to a New York Times report
on January 12, the CIA is also actively involved in collecting information from
Gaza and providing that intelligence to Israel.
US support for Israel, in all its
forms, has been maintained, despite the shocking reports issued by every
respected international charity that operates in Palestine and the Middle East.
The United Nations Relief and Works
Agency (UNRWA) said that 1.9 million out of Gaza’s entire population of 2.3
million people have been displaced. Israeli rights group B’tselem said that 2.2
million are starving. Save the Children reported that over 100 Palestinian
children are killed daily. Gaza’s government media office has said that about
70 percent of the Strip has been destroyed.
Even the Wall Street Journal
concluded that the destruction of Gaza is greater than that of Dresden in WWII.
Yet, none of this concerned US
Secretary of State Antony Blinken, who visited the region five times in less
than 100 days, with the same message of support for Israel.
What is so astonishing, however, is
that Gaza’s threshold of resilience continues to prove unequaled. This is how
determined the Palestinians are to finally achieve their freedom.
Indeed, fathers, or mothers, in a
scene repeated numerous times, would be carrying the bodies of their dead
children while howling in pain, yet insisting that they would never leave their
homeland.
This dignified pain has moved the
world. Even though Washington has ensured no meaningful action will be taken at
the UN Security Council, countries like South Africa sought the help of the
world’s highest court to demand an immediate end to the war and to recognize
Israel’s atrocities as an act of genocide.
South Africa’s efforts at the
International Court of Justice soon galvanized other countries, mostly in the
Global South.
But Netanyahu kept on digging,
unmoved, or possibly unaware that the world around him is finally beginning to
truly understand the generational suffering of the Palestinians.
The Israeli leader still speaks of
‘voluntary migration’, of wanting to manage Gaza and Palestine, and of
reshaping the Middle East in ways consistent with his own illusions of grandeur
and power.
100 days of war on Gaza has taught
us that superior firepower no longer influences outcomes when a nation takes
the collective decision of resisting.
It has also taught us that the US is
no longer able to reorder the Middle East to fit Israeli priorities, and that
relatively small countries in the Global South, when united, can alter the
course of history.
Netanyahu may continue digging, but
history has already been written: the spirit of the Palestinian people has won
over Israel’s death machine.
Joe Sacco, author of ‘Footnotes in Gaza,’ on journalism and
Palestine
Sacco,
whose graphic novels marry illustration with cutting-edge journalism, speaks on
his career reporting on Palestine and what it means to bear witness as a
journalist committed to justice.
Few
journalists can be credited with as innovative and impactful a career as Joe
Sacco, whose graphic novel-style reportage from his coverage of Palestine and
Bosnia broke down barriers of genre to expand our concepts of what journalism
could look like. Sacco appears on The Chris Hedges Report to discuss his work,
the intricacies of ethics in journalism, and Israel’s current genocide in Gaza.
Joe
Sacco is a cartoonist and journalist and the author of several books, including
Palestine and Footnotes in Gaza.
Chris
Hedges: The cartoonist Joe Sacco
invented nonfiction and graphic journalism, marrying rigorous and detailed
reporting with illustrations that leap off the page and give his stories a
texture, depth, and visceral power that is often hard to match for writers. He
pioneered this work with nine issues on the Palestinians living under Israeli
occupation, from 1993-1995. The nine comics, later published as the book,
Palestine, educated a generation about the tragedy that has gripped the
Palestinians since the creation of the state of Israel in 1948. Palestine,
which gained a cult following, won an American Book Award and is a staple on
college syllabuses across the country. Edward Said, in the introduction to
Palestine, wrote, “With the exception of one or two novelists and poets, no one
has ever rendered this terrible state of affairs better than Joe Sacco.” Joe’s
book sadly remains even more relevant today than when it was written.
But
Joe was not done. He invested over four years in his masterpiece, one of the
finest books on the Israel-Palestine conflict, Footnotes in Gaza. He explored
the little-known massacres of Palestinians by Israeli soldiers when they
occupied Rafah and Khan Yunis in the Gaza Strip in November 1956. He doggedly
tracked down victims and eyewitnesses to combine investigative journalism and
oral history from the past to explain the present. Context is key and context
in the reporting of the genocide in Gaza is largely absent in US media. This
makes Joe’s work not only timely but vital for our understanding of this
conflict. Joining me to discuss his two seminal works, Palestine and Footnotes
in Gaza, is Joe Sacco.
I’ve
read the books before, of course. I reread them. They are stunningly powerful.
I’ve worked with you and I know what high standards you have as a journalist
and a reporter. Palestine was where you formulated this marriage between
journalism and illustration. At first, no one quite understood what you were
doing or knew how to handle it. It’s incredibly effective. But talk about how
that evolved, how that came to be.
Joe
Sacco: Okay, Chris. Very good
to see you. Well, I wasn’t sure what I was doing, to be quite honest. I was a
cartoonist doing comic books. I’d had a degree in journalism, couldn’t get a
journalism job, and I wanted to do a series of comics of like a travel log in
the Palestinian Territories. I was quite interested in what was going on there.
And
it was coming out of the autobiographical tradition of underground comics, or
alternative comics. So I went there thinking it would be me, my experiences,
talking to some people, and trying to get some Palestinian perspectives on
things. But when I was there, the journalistic training I had kicked in and I
found myself behaving like a journalist and thinking in those terms, the way I
had studied, and it came together organically. So in other words, I didn’t have
some big idea about what I was going to do before I went there. The things came
together very naturally. It’s in my later work that I was a little more
journalistically inclined. But that first work was where I was experimenting
with the melding of comics and journalism.
Chris
Hedges: Talk about the
illustration. I know because I’ve worked with you, it is highly laborious. It
takes you tremendous amounts of time. We did a book together, Days of
Destruction, Days of Revolt, and I know from your great work, Footnotes in Gaza
the research you do. It’s not that you are meticulous about the reporting but
you’re meticulous about the images.
Joe
Sacco: Yeah, that’s super
important. I want the reader to viscerally feel like they’re in the places I’ve
been. And in those times when I’m taking them back into historical episodes, I
want them to feel that too. So I do a lot of visual research. I look at
photographs, I look at books, whatever I can get to make what I’m doing feel
more real.
Chris
Hedges: Let’s talk about
Palestine. The book itself was a series of originally nine comics put together
in the book Palestine, but having just reread it it doesn’t feel like nine
comics. It holds together and coalesces as a book. Partly because you look at
various aspects of the occupation. Can you talk about what you did in those
nine comics, which have now been published as a book?
Joe
Sacco: Yeah. Originally, I was
going to do six comics and it became nine. A lot of it was episodic. I let it
go where it went in my actual travels. In other words, there were a lot of
random events and it has that quality to it. But while I was there, it became
clear to me that if I wanted to assemble a picture of what the occupation
looked like, I would have to piece together some things.
I
listened to what people were telling me and I realized what were the important
components, and then I began following them up. For example, life in prison or
what it was like to be in prison. So many people there had been in prison that
I talked to. I realized that was an essential part of it. Torture, because that
was going on, the demolition of houses, and the random humiliations. So I put
those things together in one section of the book and then in another, a little
more self-contained when I went to Gaza and I talked about my experiences
there. That was another part of the book where I wanted to see how people got
along in that incredibly impoverished strip of land.
Chris
Hedges: Well, it has a sense of
discovery. One of the things I like about all of your work is that whatever
journey you’re on, you allow us to see exactly what is happening around you,
even when it doesn’t reflect particularly well on the Palestinians or yourself.
I love your critique of yourself as a journalist. I did that job for many years
and there is a darkness, maybe callousness; It’s not that we don’t feel, we do
feel. But in that drive to get a story, in Footnotes in Gaza, you’ll talk about
those interviews where – And we’re going to talk about that in a minute, the
1956 massacres in Rafah and Khan Yunis by the Israelis – But when you can’t get
stories about atrocities or carnage there’s frustration or when somebody starts
repeating something you’ve already heard before, that unvarnished view,
including all the people who want to get shekels from you for taking you on a
tour of a mosque or all the gaggles of kids who surround you – But we know that
you’re completely honest because you don’t take anything out – It reminds me
very much of… Orwell pushes this. But I want to talk about the importance of
that. It gives your work tremendous credibility.
Joe
Sacco: Thank you. Well, it’s
important to show those shady parts of journalism or the seams of journalism.
Because when I was studying journalism, I didn’t understand how things worked
in a way. I was studying it, but to me, journalists seemed like demigods that
were floating on the wall and looking down with their all-knowing eye. Then
when you’re there and you realize how you are assimilating material and you see
how other journalists are assimilating it, you realize it’s not quite like
that.
There
are a lot of misunderstandings, there’s a lot of guesswork, there’s a lot of
realizing you don’t know things and a lot of wondering if you’re being told the
truth. All those things are important. They’re important because I want people
to understand the process of journalism, the process of getting a story, and
also to show that journalism is created by imperfect beings. It’s not a
science, exactly. We all go in with our preconceived ideas and our prejudices,
and you have to face those things. That’s an important element of the work I do
and I’m lucky in that I’m not working through the mainstream, so I can put
those things in it.
Chris
Hedges: And also, as you said,
the way you will portray the senior side of Palestine and why that’s important
to your work.
Joe
Sacco: Oh, yeah. As you
suggested, you are often hearing things and you realize this won’t sound so
great for the greater cause, but then you have to decide if you’re an activist
who’s going to winnow those things out for some greater good or if you’re a
journalist who’s trying to, as much as possible, tell the story honestly. And I
always went on that side of things because even when Palestinians read the
work, they get it. Why should they be ashamed of all the passion and fury and
anger that they might feel? It’s completely understandable in the context,
which I’m also trying to present.
Chris
Hedges: You’ve spent many, many
years… If you count Palestine, and then we did a piece for Harper’s Magazine, A
Diary in Khan Yunis, then you went back and did Footnotes in Gaza. What is it
about Palestine and did Palestine grip you from that first experience? But
you’ve invested tremendous time in Palestine.
Joe
Sacco: Well, you’re a fellow
journalist. Particular stories hit you in the gut and mattered to you for
whatever reasons and the whole Palestine thing mattered to me on a personal
level because I grew up thinking Palestinians were terrorists. And that began
to shift around the time of the invasion of Lebanon in ’81, and then the
massacres in Sabra and Shatila when I realized that, something else was going
on. Later on, after I got my degree in journalism, I began to look at how
journalism had shaped that viewpoint of Palestinians and I realized that’s what
it was, I was appalled by what I didn’t know and what I wasn’t told by
journalists.
There
were a lot of reporting effects like an attack on a bus, a hostage situation
with some airplanes, or whatever it was, all of those were facts but there was
never any context. And I realized the only time I’d ever read or heard the word
Palestinian was with the word terrorism. So in a way, I needed to do penance. I
almost needed to atone in my own mind for those misunderstandings and that
ignorance. And it became a special passion because I began to see how deeply
wronged the Palestinian people were historically and how badly misrepresented
they were. And it’s those two things, people deeply wronged and so badly
misrepresented, that pulled me in that direction.
Chris
Hedges: What is it from your
first trip to Palestine… It’s interesting, I was there, we didn’t meet then,
but I was covering, I was living in Cairo, covering Gaza for the New York
Times. What is it that particularly struck you? Were there certain incidents?
What is it that first hit you or gripped you?
Joe
Sacco: When I was there, it was
the day-to-day humiliations and degradation. There were always things that were
more spectacular. You could always find stories of people who were shot, people
who were wounded, and house demolitions. But it was these constant stories of
humiliation, men being told to get out of cars, raise their arms, and keep
their arms up in the air. They seemed like little things, but they were daily,
and they added up. And I realized how dehumanized the Palestinians were from
the Israeli perspective. The Israelis were constantly dehumanizing. Over time,
that’s the thing that really struck me. It’s not so much the spectacular
things.
Chris
Hedges: Although in all of the
work, there’s that constant backdrop of violence. In Footnotes in Gaza, you
will alternate between what happened in ’56 and what’s happening at the moment.
It’s on the eve of the war in Iraq. But there’s that constant drumbeat. Either
you hear shots or… And that is pervasive throughout all of your work.
Joe
Sacco: Well, yeah,
unfortunately, because it’s been pervasive in Palestinian history. So when I
was there – As you were during the first Intifada and then we were both there
during the second Intifada – It’s not like the violence was turned on and then
turned off and it’s been off since then and now we can all reflect on it in
this way. It was constant and it is constant. Obviously, with what’s going on
today, you see it’s ramped up to a great level. So violence has always been the
backdrop for Palestinians, always, since before 1948. But in particular, since
1948, it hasn’t ceased.
Chris
Hedges: There’s a wonderful
moment at the end of Footnotes in Gaza where you meet two Israeli women and
they’re saying well, you should see it from our perspective. Or is that in
Palestine?
Joe
Sacco: That’s in Palestine.
Chris
Hedges: Yeah. And you go to Tel
Aviv. But you have this wonder thing of, in fact, I did see it from the Israeli
perspective. I’ll let you explain.
Joe
Sacco: Yeah, I felt my whole
life I’d seen things from the Israeli perspective. That was pretty much the
only perspective I had and that’s what was filtered down through all the news
broadcasts I ever saw and all the newspaper accounts I ever read. So I got the
Israeli perspective. And especially at that time in the early 1990s, there
wasn’t social media, there weren’t a lot of people reporting on the ground for
independent media. So I hadn’t even heard many Palestinian voices. The only
ones I ever heard were in human rights reports, let’s say Al-Haq, the
well-known Palestinian human rights organization.
There
would be these deposition accounts of being stopped or being shot or whatever
it was and they all read legalistic. They were very legalistic. And originally,
I thought I would try to draw those things. I’d see if I could get permission
to draw those and then I realized that was so dry. Palestinians weren’t just
victims, with a capital V, there were many other facets of their lives and
that’s what I wanted to find out. I wanted to go and talk to Palestinians. You
didn’t get that from the media at that time.
Chris
Hedges: Well, we also reflect
that I watched the settlers and I watched the IDF. So in some sense, I do know
the Israeli perspective; I know it as it’s seen through the Palestinian
experience.
Joe
Sacco: That’s right. The whole
two months I spent the major trip I took to Gaza, Footnotes in Gaza, I never
once saw an Israeli soldier. I only saw Israeli vehicles, armored troop
carriers or bulldozers, especially, military vehicles. I never saw someone’s
eyes. So that was also the Palestinian perspective.
Chris
Hedges: Let’s talk about
Footnotes in Gaza. Its genesis took place in a magazine piece that we did
together for Harper’s Magazine. We were working in Khan Yunis, where we focused
the piece and we heard about these massacres in 1956 when the Israeli army,
under the Suez crisis – They were in Gaza for 100 days if I remember – Carried
out wholesale killings in Khan Yunis, and then as you found out later, Rafah.
And the magazine cut it out because it was history, it wasn’t deemed important.
You and I felt very differently and this sets you on this project. But explain
what happened and why you decided to devote so many years to this book.
Joe
Sacco: Well, frankly, it was
anger that part was cut from your piece. These seemed like very valuable
memories that we were taking down and were very important in understanding the
context of what was going on. You remember we met al-Rantisi, the very high
Hamas official, later assassinated by the Israelis, and his uncle was killed in
1956 by Israeli forces.
Chris
Hedges: He was nine years old at
the time.
Joe
Sacco: Yeah, al-Rantisi was
nine years old at the time. And what he told us was at that moment, through all
the grief, he remembers his dad wailing and everyone incredibly upset. He said
that planted hatred in their hearts. And unfortunately, there have been many
instances like that, that have stoked that hatred. So it seemed very important
to begin to understand those historical episodes because they’re like the
building blocks for what we have today. The building blocks of the context for
what’s going on now. And what’s going on now becomes the context for what will
happen in the future. So these things are important. It’s important to
understand them and it’s important to understand that things don’t come out of
the blue. This question, why do they hate us or does the incitement come from
textbooks, or something like that, come on. It comes from these episodes in
history where people are shot and murdered. That’s where it comes from. And now
bombed.
Chris
Hedges: It’s fascinating,
throughout the book you’re constantly being questioned as to why you’re
focusing on 1956 with some anger and people hauling you off to say, well, you
have to look at what they did to my house. This is more important. You were
right. But even the Palestinians themselves, often, some of them, not all of
them, fail to see the importance of what you were documenting. We should be
clear that this has not been documented. There’s very little reference to this.
And to go back, when you look at the UN reports and they do that or you quote
the report in the book where the Palestinians say this, the Israelis say this
and it nullifies the event itself.
Joe
Sacco: Right. And the
journalistic comparative is to say, well, this is not a tennis match between
two competing sides. What happened? And if you’re not going to get it from
documents and people who are alive or remember it, you should make an effort to
go and talk to those people. It’s a very simple journalistic enterprise in a
way. Okay, I’ll talk to people and try to find out what happened. Yeah, so
that’s what launched me in that direction.
Chris
Hedges: And explain what
happened, what you found out.
Joe
Sacco: Okay. There had been,
what you can say a border of war or a border of conflict with Palestinians,
mostly refugees then, in the Gaza Strip. A lot of them were going back into
Israel to harvest their crops, to go back to their homes that they had been
displaced from or expelled from. And the Israelis were obviously against this.
They were killing a lot of these people. And border skirmishes started, and
guerilla groups were set up by the Egyptian army, which –
Chris
Hedges: I should be clear,
occupied Gaza.
Joe
Sacco – Yeah. Which occupied
Gaza at that time. And they attempted to control and were running Palestinian
guerillas into Israel. So there were border clashes going on that could get
quite heated at times with many casualties.
And
in the ’56 war, when for various reasons, Great Britain, France, and Israel
wanted to lay low – And Nasser, who was president of Egypt – Another one of the
things the Israelis thought they could do like they’re doing now, is end this
problem in Gaza once and for all, end the problem of the guerillas once and for
all. So when they came into Gaza and they conquered it quite quickly, they went
into the town of Khan Yunis and they didn’t do a screening operation of any
sort. They started shooting men. They shot them in their homes, they lined them
up against walls and in the street, and they shot them. According to the UN,
about 275 unarmed men were killed.
Later
in Rafah, a few days later, they did do a screening operation where they had
all the men gather in a school so they could screen them to see if they were
either in the Egyptian military or guerillas. In the process of that screening
operation, especially when the men were running toward the school and going
through the gate, they shot them or they clubbed them so badly that they died.
And more than 100, like 111-112 individuals, died in that. And both those
incidents had a great mark on the people. And as you say, though, some of the
younger generation didn’t quite understand my focus on it. But as someone told
me, events are continuous. They’re going on presently all the time. So it was
hard for them to focus on those things. It was easier for me because that was
what I was determined to do.
Chris
Hedges: There’s a lot of
violence in the book. It’s a painful book to read. Many of the people you
interview become emotionally very distraught. What was it like to draw it and
write it?
Joe
Sacco: Well, you might feel
some of this, Chris. It’s like when you’re in the field talking to people, it’s
that coldness that I hint at in the book that you can get. You behave very
professionally, almost like a doctor, almost like a surgeon trying to get the
story in. You go in, you get the story, you come out. And you have to keep your
feelings at bay. You have to collect the information and be as accurate as
possible. So that’s one part of the job. The other part is when I’m drawing,
even years later, that’s when it hits me because then I can no longer detach
myself in the same way. I have to inhabit each person as I’m drawing them. You
have to try to feel what they’re going through in order to draw them. So that’s
when it becomes more difficult. That’s when you’re getting the full impact of
what you did. The drawing table is a harder place to be than the streets of
Gaza, on some level.
Chris
Hedges: You said you didn’t want
to go through that experience again if I’m quoting you correctly.
Joe
Sacco: Yeah. I don’t know how
you feel, but I always feel like journalism has a half-life. There’s only so
much of it you can do before you begin to run out of steam. So you have to know
when to maybe change focus a bit.
Chris
Hedges: Well, there’s a huge
emotional cost.
Joe
Sacco: Right. And that’s what
makes it so hard to watch what’s going on now. You feel everything that’s going
on now, it’s pretty overpowering. You could imagine what it’s like for them.
Chris
Hedges: Yes. In some ways, it’s
the culmination of 75 years of indiscriminate violence, and it seems that each
time that wave of Israeli violence hits Gaza, it hits it at a level or has an
intensity that it didn’t have before. And what we’re seeing now has an
intensity we’ve never seen before, even in 1948. What are your thoughts on
what’s happening and how it should be seen from a historical perspective?
Joe
Sacco: Well, as you say, it’s a
culmination. It might not even be the low point. That’s what scares me even
more. It’s the natural logic of what’s been coming since 1948. It is the logic
of 1948. Back in those days, it was the same idea. We need to expel the people.
Herzl said that in the 1800s we needed to spirit the pennyless population
across the border. It’s nothing new in a way but it was always inching toward
this. And it seems to have reached another, what you can say is a catastrophe,
and what looks like a genocide to me. So I don’t know where it goes from here.
It seems like the Israelis do want to expel the Palestinians. They want to get
rid of this population in any way possible. And by making Gaza uninhabitable,
there’ll be a lot of pressure from the Palestinians living there themselves to
get out, because a lot of them have probably reached a breaking point.
Chris
Hedges: Yeah, it’s clear Israel
has offered them a choice. They can die from bullets, bombs, exposure, or
disease. 500,000 Palestinians, according to the UN, are literally at starvation
level, or they can leave. That seems to be what they’re orchestrating. And it’s
on a larger scale. They used the same tactic, which you reported on in 1948. It
wasn’t any different.
Joe
Sacco: Right. Yeah, they’re
taking it to a greater level. This is their big chance in a way. Perhaps it’ll
get foiled, I don’t know. But we’ve seen it now at its most raw, at its most
naked. No one who sees it now can deny it.
Chris
Hedges: I was reading that
passage in your book, Footnotes in Gaza. You write about Palestinians being
expelled to Gaza. And it’s exactly what’s happening today in southern Gaza.
There’s no housing, there’s no infrastructure. And in the book, you’re writing
about how they dig holes in the ground to sweep in, which is precisely what
we’re seeing in Rafah and Khan Yunis at this moment.
Joe
Sacco: Right. It’s a complete
reversion to what happened in ’48. People are intense. People are trying to
shelter themselves. And in many ways, it is worse because there seems to be a
starvation of the population. It’s not hunger, it’s starvation, and like you
say, disease and continual military assault. So it’s at another point now, it’s
at another level.
Chris
Hedges: And the other continuum,
which you also note in particular in Footnotes in Gaza with the cynicism of
Nasser and the Egyptians, is the indifference of the international community
and even Arab countries who rhetorically will speak on behalf of the
Palestinians, but do very little to help them. Can you talk about that
continuum?
Joe
Sacco: Yeah. In some ways, the
Palestinians are a way that other Arab populations are allowed to vent their
frustrations at their dictatorships and their conditions. It’s the release ball
for passions and anger. But I do think the average Arab person has a lot of
feelings for the Palestinians, it’s the government. Governments make treaties
and make agreements with other governments, they don’t make them with the
people. So there’s always that disconnect. And yes, the Arab governments are
treating this problem mostly, they’re treating it quite cynically.
Chris
Hedges: Have you been in touch
with people you worked with? I haven’t been to Gaza for some time, since we did
our magazine piece. But have you been trying to reach out to people? And if you
had, what have you heard? And talk about that connection, if there is one.
Joe
Sacco: Sure. Well, there are a
couple of people who I was in touch with for some time. One of them for not so
long, I haven’t heard from him in about six or eight weeks. I’m quite worried.
Another friend, I haven’t heard from him in about three weeks and I’m quite
worried because a lot of his family members have died: An uncle and his entire
family, a cousin and his entire family, and then two daughters of another
cousin and their entire family. So it’s hit him quite hard. And I haven’t heard
from him either. So I’m waiting.
Chris
Hedges: How do you see it
playing out? Or do you have any idea where it’s headed? I don’t know that the
Israeli government even knows where it’s headed.
Joe
Sacco: Yeah, it’s hard to say
exactly. Netanyahu needs to demonstrate something. He needs to demonstrate
something to the Israeli people that will help him claw his way back into their
hearts. And it has to be something profound and that’s troubling. So I don’t
expect any good things to come out of this. We’re in for perhaps some changes,
maybe some surprises. These things, you lift the lid off them and you never
know where they’re going to go. You never know how it’s going to play out. And
then you have to think, well, what’s it going to look like in 5 years or 10
years or 20 years? And you don’t know. What you do know is that nothing has
been resolved. The hatred will continue, and the fear will continue. And if
we’ve come to this level, what’s the next step? What’s the next stage?
Chris
Hedges: Well, that’s why
Footnotes in Gaza is so important.
Joe
Sacco: Well, thanks. It’s
important to provide the context. You do wish these books would run out of
steam and wouldn’t have the same meaning and would become obsolete.
Chris
Hedges: It’s absolutely vital
and it’s tremendous work. That was the cartoonist, Joe Sacco, author of
Palestine and Footnotes in Gaza. I want to thank The Real News Network and its
production team; Cameron Granadino, Adam Coley, David Hebden, and Kayla Rivara.
You can find me at ChrisHedges.substack.com.
Netanyahu says Israel must Control from the River to the Sea,
but it won’t cost him his Job as it does Palestinians
The
Israeli newspaper Arab 48 reports on the press conference in Tel Aviv on
Thursday evening of Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu. He vowed to continue the
war on Gaza and vowed to attack Iran. “Who says we won’t attack Iran? We will
attack it.”
At
one point Netanyahu insisted that in any foreseen arrangement for the future,
“Israel must control all the lands west of the Jordan.”
(It
is worth noting that such a massive annexation of Palestinian territory would
expand Israel from the river to the sea, and would permanently destroy any
possibility of a Palestinian state.
When
supporters of Palestinian rights use this phrase, Zionists allege that it is
murderous toward Israelis. They are wrong — it is a demand for political rights
for Palestinians. Marc Lamont Hill was actually fired from CNN for using this
phrase in a pro-Palestinian speech at the United Nations. The odious Rep. Elise
Stefanik got Claudine Gray fired as president of Harvard because she would not
categorize the phrase, used in pro-Palestinian student demonstrations, as
Antisemitic.
But
when Netanyahu says it, we should in fact understand it to be murderous toward
Palestinians, since no one in history has killed as many Palestinian civilians
as Netanyahu.)
Netanyahu
said, “Complete victory requires the return of our hostages to their homes, the
disarming of Gaza, and security oversight over what enters Gaza.” He emphasized
that “ending the war before achieving our goals will harm the security of
Israel for generations.”
He
said that his government had passed an enormous military budget that would help
the army realize its war aims and achieve victory. He cautioned, “Victory will
take more long months, but we are determined to accomplish it.”
He
“completely rejected” the repeated assertions by present and former Israeli
political officials in television interviews that victory is impossible. Faced
with protests over his failure to bring back Israeli hostages, he insisted that
it was military pressure that would free them. He said that ending the war
would broadcast a message of weakness and it would then be only a matter of
time until there was another bloodbath. He was referring to the sickening Hamas
attack of October 7, the bulk of whose victims were innocent civilians.
Regarding
reports that he had rejected the American suggestion of establishing a
Palestinian state, the embattled prime minister, who is deeply unpopular,
attempted to tie his fate to that of the nation, replying, “What the political
parties call in Israel ‘the day after’ means for them ‘the day after
Netanyahu.’ . . . Whoever speaks of the day after Netanyahu in reality is
speaking of the establishment of a Palestinian state via the Palestine
Authority. That isn’t the day that follows Netanyahu but is the ‘day after’ for
the majority of Israeli citizens.”
He
said of US influence in Israel that the Israeli prime minister must be able to
say “no” even to the dearest of friends.
Barak
Ravid reported this week at Axios that US President Joe Biden is deeply
frustrated with Netanyahu’s intransigence and has not spoken with him in nearly
a month. Ravid says during that last conversation, Biden was pressing Netanyahu
to restore the funding he had cut from the Palestine Authority (the West Bank
rival of Hamas). Netanyahu rejected all of Biden’s suggestions for a
workaround. Biden allegedly said, “This conversation is over.” And, it has been
over ever since.
On
Sunday, some 400,000 protesters demonstrated in Washington, DC, against the
ongoing war, alleging that Biden is facilitating genocide. Democratic Party
leaders such as Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer have expressed anxiety about
the impact of Biden losing the Arab and Muslim American votes, which have
sometimes been swing votes in Michigan and some other key states.
Netanyahu
is on trial for corruption and fears going to jail if he loses his current
position. Opinion polling suggests that he and his coalition partners would be
crushed at the polls if the government fell and new elections were held now.
Some polls show that only 15% of Israelis want Netanyahu to remain at his post
once the war on Gaza ends. Many Israelis blame him for the security failures
attendant on the October 7 terrorist attack. He in turn has represented himself
as the only one who can stand up to pressure for the establishment of a
Palestinian state.
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