January 25, 2025
On the campaign
trail, Donald Trump promised that, if elected, “On day one, I will launch the
largest deportation program of criminals in the history of America.” Trump’s
administration has wasted no time since re-entering the White House on Monday,
and communities around the US are currently bracing for a wave of ICE raids. In
plans that were publicly leaked ahead of Trump’s inauguration, the city of
Chicago was identified as a key target for immigration raids, putting immigrant
residents and their neighbors on high alert. To discuss the impending threat to
Chicago and cities around the country, and how communities can fight back, The
Real News speaks with Moises Zavala, Workplace Justice Campaigns Organizer for
Arise Chicago, and Natascha Elena Uhlmann, a writer for Labor Notes and
immigrant rights activist from Sonora, Mexico.
Transcript
The following is
a rushed transcript and may contain errors. A proofread version will be made
available as soon as possible.
Taya Graham:
Hello, my name
is Taya Graham and welcome to a special emergency report created to help those
who are immigrants or might be helping innocent people who happen to be
immigrants in our country. And it’s no small matter. We’re tackling one of the
most urgent human rights issues of our time, the weaponization of immigrant
officers and law enforcement officers against working people, and it’s under
the guise of law and order. This new administration has revived and expanded
policies that threaten to tear families apart, destabilize communities, and
target some of the most vulnerable people among us. And yet, amid the fear and
uncertainty, there is resistance, resistance from those who refuse to let
cruelty and chaos define our workplaces and our neighborhoods. Today we’ll be
speaking with organizers and advocates and reporters who are pushing back
creating sanctuary in unexpected places and proving that solidarity is our
strongest shield. From teachers standing up for their immigrant students to
unions rewriting the rules of what it means to protect workers, these are the
people finding innovative, compassionate ways to challenge the unchecked power
of ICE.
And leaked plans
show that ICE will be heading into Chicago, and we will be directly speaking to
the organizers on the ground, and we’ll try to get for you the most current
updates on the situation. We’ll also explore how deportations are not just acts
of cruelty, but tools of economic control throwing lives into disarray,
creating fear, and reinforcing inequality. But for those who might think,
“Well, this doesn’t affect my life,” we’ll also explain the economic disruption
that will occur across the board for those of us understandably worried about
the cost of groceries and other goods. And there is solid data that shows that
when President Obama deported a record 3 million people, it did not equate to 3
million jobs for Americans or proportionately higher wages. In fact, in
President Trump’s first term, he only deported 1.9 million people, and I was
somewhat surprised to discover that Biden deported even more than both Trump
and President Obama.
Although
allegedly this was because more people entered the country during his tenure,
it is interesting to note that both Democrats and Republicans have engaged in
mass deportations, but the type of deportation policies that are currently
being proposed can target people here legally under temporary protected status,
children born in the U.S. to noncitizens, or people without criminal records
who’ve been working here for decades who might’ve had trouble renewing a work
visa or have been waiting years for the asylum process to be finalized. So, to
get a better understanding of what our country is doing, let’s dive into the
policies that make this possible and, more importantly, the people and
movements fighting back. Because while this is a time of fear, it is also a
time when we can show our humanity, our compassion, and our resourcefulness,
and to demonstrate the power of collective action. I’m fortunate to be joined
by senior investigative reporter Stephen Janis to help me break down this
difficult topic.
Stephen Janis:
Absolutely. Glad
to be here.
Taya Graham:
Stephen, thank
you so much for joining me.
Stephen Janis:
You’re welcome.
Taya Graham:
First, can you
give me just a brief overview of what the Trump administration has been doing?
Stephen Janis:
I mean, it’s so
complex and so expansive and sprawling, it’s difficult to connect all the dots,
and we’ll be talking to our guests about this. But for example, he wants to
revoke birthright citizenship for children who are born to people who are not
here, I guess, legally, from his perspective. Another thing he wants to do is
deputize, as we were saying before the show, all sorts of law enforcement
agents to be able to deport people. So he’s ratcheting that up. He’s created a
national emergency at the border, he has mobilized the military to the border,
and he has issued an executive order to conduct emergency raids and to deport
people kind of on the spot. I don’t know if it’s the mass deportation, but it’s
sprawling. It’s like in every aspect…
Oh, and even
more importantly and even more astounding, it used to be you can’t grab a
person at a church or a school. We’re not going to have people storming in
there with jackets. Well, guess what? That’s absolutely on the table now, that
people can go into a school or a church or something and just snatch up people.
It’s scary really, and it is an expansion of law enforcement I think that’s
unprecedented in our recent history. But we’ve seen some of this before in the
history of this country. But it is so sprawling and so expansive and so
permeates every part of life, I think it’s going to change a lot for people who
thought they might’ve been voting for Trump, and they’re going to see up front
how cruel this can be.
Taya Graham:
Absolutely. We
want to get started as soon as possible. We are joined by two guests-
Stephen Janis:
Absolutely.
Taya Graham:
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… to help us
understand who is at risk and what we can do to help. First, we have Natascha
Uhlmann, staff writer for Labor Notes and an organizer. Her reporting covers
Unite Here, farm workers, immigrant workers, and Mexico’s growing independent
labor movement. And she’s already active in cross-border solidarity. In fact,
she’s the editor and translator of former Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez
Obrador’s book, A New Hope for Mexico. Natascha is a member of Emergency
Workplace Organizing Committee, and she’s the author of Abolish ICE. Natascha,
thank you so much for joining us.
Natascha
Uhlmann:
Thank you so
much for having me.
Taya Graham:
And next we have
Moises Zavala. He is an accomplished union organizer with over 25 years of
experience. He has developed strategic plans to organize workers for union
membership. He trains junior organizers. He serves on the local 881 UFCW
executive board, and he’s an organizer at Arise, a faith-based labor movement
where he helps workers to learn their rights and how to enforce them, including
through making collective demands and building workplace committees. Moises,
thank you so much for being here. We really do appreciate it.
Moises Zavala:
Thank you for
having me.
Taya Graham:
So let me turn
to you first, Moises. Just tell me a little bit about your organization, Arise
that you work for, because it’s a faith-based organization, but also tell us
what your concerns are for the people who are at the risk of deportation. And I
just want to mention, we heard there might be an update on some of the raids
across the country, so if you want to step in and speak about that first,
please feel free.
Moises Zavala:
Sure. First of
all, Arise Chicago is a worker center, not for profit, and what we do here is
we support workers that are non-union to organize and protect their rights,
organized collectively to improve their working conditions. We have been very
involved in creating a rapid response to the problem that we have now of these
mass deportations. What we did to create this rapid response was to have our
members and community be ready for this. How? By creating trainings with our
members and in the community of what to expect and how to be ready for this.
Because when a worker is detained by ICE or there is a raid, people get
paralyzed because of fear, because of the shock, and it is very hard then to be
able to fight that deportation and provide to an attorney what they need to
defend these workers.
We have created
an organizing toolbox for the community and for our members so they could be
ready, such as what are the documents that they need to have with themselves at
all times? What happens if there is a raid or they’re detained? Who is going to
pick up their children? Who is going to take care of their last paycheck or be
able to go into their bank accounts and be able to provide for the children or
the family that’s left behind? If the children are sick, who is going to know
what kind of medication the children have to take or what are the illnesses? So
there’s a huge area of readiness that our members and community have been
developing now in case the worst happens. If the worst does not happen, then
our community is one step ahead.
Stephen Janis:
Aren’t they
going to classify family members who are actually citizens as collaterals or
something? Taya and I were hearing about as we were driving into work to do
this show. Do you know anything about that and what that means for people who
have families?
Moises Zavala:
All I could say
is that from the looks of things, it sounds like ICE will pick up anybody that
they run into. They have a list of names that they are looking for, but clearly
that’s not going to stop from asking others, say, in a household or in a facility
where people are working if they have documentation or not.
Stephen Janis:
Okay. Yeah, go
ahead. I’m sorry.
Taya Graham:
No, I just
thought it was really interesting because I believe Tom Homan had been saying
that if people who we would say are at risk for deportation don’t voluntarily
leave on their own, he was basically saying people are concerned that families
will be separated. He said, “We’ll take the family with them.”
Stephen Janis:
Yeah, the whole
family. They’re not going to separate. Yeah.
Taya Graham:
Right, and
people were referring to families being deported as collateral-
Stephen Janis:
Right, I just
said that.
Taya Graham:
… damage in the
war. So that was really disturbing.
Stephen Janis:
Natascha, I want
to ask you, your work is amazing on all this. We were reviewing it. And how
historic is this? And we know the first couple raid has happened across the
country, about 400 or 500 people. First, what do you know about this and how
unprecedented is this effort by the Trump administration historically speaking?
Natascha
Uhlmann:
Yeah, I mean,
we’re definitely seeing an escalation. Some employers are already instituting
non-mandated employment authorization checks. 100 custodial and kitchen workers
at New York City’s Tin Building were fired after building management carried
one of these out. They’re effectively called silent raids, and they’re every
bit as damaging as the more visible raids that tend to get more publicity. So a
lot of this stuff can happen sort of quietly too.
Stephen Janis:
What do you mean
by silent raids, so people understand? I didn’t know exactly what that meant,
so can you just give us a description of what a silent raid is?
Natascha
Uhlmann:
Yeah,
absolutely. So basically your employer can, in a way that it is not mandated to
do, say, “I want to check that you’re authorized to work here,” even if you’ve
been working here for a year, for 10 years. And it’s a way of clearing out if
you are knowingly hiring undocumented workers. It’s every bit is damaging to
get rid of them, but in a way that often just goes unnoticed because it’s not
the sort of showy ICE bursting through the door, right?
Stephen Janis:
That’s really
interesting. That’s horrifying too. And do you know anything about the raids
that have occurred with 400 or 500 people in Illinois and Maryland and a couple
other states, Utah? I mean, has anyone said anything to you about these?
Natascha
Uhlmann:
So it’s really a
rapidly developing situation, but I think a few things are clear. The first is
that bosses are absolutely going to abuse this atmosphere of fear and
uncertainty, and the second is that ICE and Border Patrol are going to throw a
lot of things at the wall and see what sticks. And we’re going to need to do
the same, right? Experiment with tactics, see what sticks, but always with an
eye to building power in a strategic way.
Taya Graham:
Let me ask you,
Moises, something. When you’re speaking to immigrants in your community, what
are their fears and what are they trying to do to address them? I know you’re
doing organizing, I know you’re trying to prepare people, but what are their
fears at heart?
Moises Zavala:
The fear is the
unknown. What’s going to happen? How is it going to happen? And we don’t have
those answers, but what we do have is the ability to organize. And more than
ever, we are sharing with our members that this is the time to organize with
their coworkers, with their community, with their churches, the schools where
the children go, to really solidify that network that we have and use it to
organize support because this is not the first time that working families are
attacked in this fashion. It’s happened before, and in the past, workers and
communities organized very sophisticatedly to be able to win those types of
oppressions, and we have to do the same thing. We have to continue that effort
of unity, of organizing, and information so that people do not feel or do not
have that fear that is going to paralyze them. We don’t have all the answers,
but what we do know is that people want to live in peace and people can
organize, and that is the avenue in which our members are taking to be able to
have some stability in their lives at this moment.
Stephen Janis:
Natascha, one of
the executive orders was getting rid of the birthright citizenship. How
destructive do you think this will be? Do you think it will stick? Do you think
the Trump administration will be able to make this stick? It really is
contradicting the Constitution. But nevertheless, how destructive is this to
families, and what are your concerns about that?
Natascha
Uhlmann:
Yeah,
absolutely. First, can I say, can I jump in on the fear question after this?
Stephen Janis:
Absolutely.
Taya Graham:
Oh, please do.
Stephen Janis:
You can jump in
now. If you want to start with that, go ahead.
Taya Graham:
Yes.
Natascha
Uhlmann:
Yeah, thank you
so much.
Stephen Janis:
Absolutely.
Natascha
Uhlmann:
Yeah. On the
topic of fear, I mean this is without question a scary moment, but it is really
essential that we don’t do the right’s work for them. They want people to be
afraid. They want to project way more strength than they have in hopes that
people will self-deport or remove themselves from public life. I am seeing a
lot of bad actors who are seizing on this moment to spread terror. I heard from
one organizer that a photo circulating spreading panic of an ICE van was
actually photoshopped. And I’ve also seen someone screencap a photo from an ICE
raid in 2018 and post it and say it was this week. So a lot of organizers I
talk to right now are saying, “Spread power, not panic.” If you’re sharing
information about a raid, verify it first. It can be tempting to just want to
get that info out there, and I certainly feel that urge, but it’s really
important not to play into the right’s hands and not to spread fear and
uncertainty.
Stephen Janis:
Do you have any
sense of who is spreading this fear and why they would want to do that? Are
they trying to exploit workers, or is there some motivation behind that? Just
curious.
Natascha
Uhlmann:
I mean, it’s all
very developing, so I can’t-
Stephen Janis:
I know. Totally
understand. It just struck me like, wow, what a horrible thing to do to people.
What’s your motive there?
Natascha
Uhlmann:
I think just
abject cruelty. I mean, I certainly do think bosses are very much prepared to
take advantage of this moment, no question, but I can go back to the birthright
question now.
Stephen Janis:
Yeah, sure. Of
course. Of course. Absolutely.
Natascha
Uhlmann:
Cool. Yeah, it’s
absolutely heinous, and it’s just a complete mess because where do you draw the
line? Right? Babies born today, a year ago, 10 years ago? And also he’s claimed
that the U.S. is the only country that offers birthright is just actually factually
wrong. Right? Canada, Mexico, for starters, our literal backyard, Belize, Costa
Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, this is not an uncommon practice.
Stephen Janis:
Wow.
Taya Graham:
And just to make
this clear, because one of the things that was mentioned in the inauguration
speech was the idea that the people who are in this country that are immigrants
are somehow criminals, and I don’t think anyone would argue that if someone is
engaged in transporting narcotics or human trafficking, no matter what your
status is, you’re committing a crime. But we’re hearing that there’s so many
people like clergy and teachers and employers, they’re worried about protecting
community members that are valued hard-working people and even children. I was
hoping, and this is either for you, Moises, or for you, Natascha, maybe you can
just tell us a little bit about the people at risk. Describe who they are, help
put a face to it so people understand who you’re trying to protect.
Moises Zavala:
It’s everyday
people. Everyday people are at risk. Students, restaurant workers, grocery
workers, factory workers, everybody’s at risk because we don’t carry an ID that
says I’m a U.S. citizen, I’m a permanent resident, I’m undocumented. Hey, if
you look Mexican, we’re going to have to pull you over. Show me some papers.
That’s the kind of world in which we live in right now. If it was that simple
where, “Hey, here’s a list. These are people that you have to go and find,”
that’s one thing, but that’s not what we’re hearing. So again, we’re living in
a moment where we have to inform faster than before, broader than before, and
really organize to be able to push back to be able to make sure that workers
know what their rights are.
For example, if
there is a raid or they get pulled over or they’re stopped on the street,
what’s the first thing that we mentioned in our trainings? Remain silent.
Remain silent. We have little cards that say, “I’m going to remain silent, and
I want to speak to my attorney.” They look something like this where the work
it can put in their pocket and show it to an ICE agent. So this is what we’re
doing to be able to fight off this environment of fear. I mean, attacking a
birthright citizenship, it’s just another way to create fear and to create
anger and to try to point at people and wonder, hey, I wonder if he or she is a
U.S. citizen. Well, let’s ask them. Right? I hope it doesn’t get to that point,
but it sure as heck looks like it is. So we have to be ready for that. We have
to push back.
Stephen Janis:
Natascha-
Natascha
Uhlmann:
[inaudible
00:18:20].
Stephen Janis:
Oh, go ahead.
You go ahead. Absolutely. I don’t need to ask a question.
Natascha
Uhlmann:
Great. I think
Moises makes some excellent points. Just to add to that, there’s often this
sort of outrage of, “Well, they broke the law to come here. Why didn’t they
come the right way? Why didn’t they get in line?” Well, first of all, for many
people, there just simply is no line to get into. But secondly, often the
people who say this are often the same people who say things like, “I would do
anything for my child. I would kill for my child.” And I think it’s really
important to tap into that shared humanity. People are coming here because they
have hopes and aspirations, and they want to give their kids something that
they didn’t have. And you cannot tell me as a parent, if you could not feed
your kid, you wouldn’t cross some damn line for them. I think these are the
conversations that we need to be having.
Stephen Janis:
Yeah. I think-
Moises Zavala:
Another thing
that I would add-
Stephen Janis:
Okay.
Natascha
Uhlmann:
Sorry.
Moises Zavala:
Another thing
that I would add when we talk about criminalizing undocumented workers is,
well, what are we talking about? They just pardoned 1,500 criminals that
attacked our capital.
Stephen Janis:
Oh, good point.
Moises Zavala:
And what is it?
What are we talking about when we say criminals?
Stephen Janis:
Well, one of the
things, and I wanted both of you, if you want to jump in on understanding, have
they canceled the ability to ask or seek asylum, speaking of cruelty? I think
that was in part of the executive orders. Is that playing out? Is that correct?
Moises Zavala:
I believe that’s
what it was.
Stephen Janis:
Yeah. Yeah,
because seeking a asylum is an important part of that process you were talking
about for people trying to come here, right? If that goes away, what happens?
Moises Zavala:
People continue
to see the United States as a place of hope, and people will continue, like
Natascha mentioned, they will continue to walk the miles and miles for their
children. I don’t think it’s fun to be walking through the desert or through a
jungle. These are needs. But there are different ways to welcome people into
this country, but the way this new administration is going about it, it’s
simply just to create chaos and create fear.
Taya Graham:
I think you
brought up such a good point that these people are doing what any American
would say they would do for their family, which is I would do anything for my
child. I think you brought up such a great point, both of you. And I hate to
bring up something that stokes more fear, but there have already been instances
of anti-immigrant violence. I mean, back in December, there were two teenagers
in New York. They were asked by a group of men if they spoke English. When they
said no, they didn’t speak English, they were both stabbed and one died. Of
course, in Springfield, Ohio, after Haitians were falsely accused of being in
the U.S. illegally and harming pets and spreading disease, there were marches
by white supremacists, and there were 30 bomb threats in one week. So I have to
ask you both, are there any concerns that there could be vigilante actions
against the immigrant community?
Moises Zavala:
Look, it could
very well be, but I think it’s also on all of us to play a role in making sure
that this changes. It’s not just for immigrant rights organizations like ours
to be fighting this off. We will. That’s what we do. But it’s also the
participation of the rest of our communities to stand up and to fight against
this kind of attacks on all of us.
Natascha
Uhlmann:
Yeah, I would
just add, I think a lot of this work will come down to talking to people who
don’t agree with you, building bonds of trust and solidarity, and then you can
have that conversation, right? It’s not the undocumented worker making five
bucks an hour under the table who’s getting the better end of the deal, right?
He didn’t choose that. The boss did. And if there wasn’t some arbitrary
designation of immigration status, the boss couldn’t get away with paying him
five bucks an hour. It is the vulnerability of immigration status itself that
creates the conditions where a boss can undercut you. I just wanted to flag,
we’ve got a great piece in Labor Notes called Worker Solidarity Is the Best
Strategy to Defeat Rising Fascism, and it talks about exactly that. It is in
the boss’s interest to have us at each other’s throats, keep us divided, see
each other as a threat. I think it is going to take talking to people who don’t
agree with us, not violent people like that, but I think it’s what it’s going
to have to look like.
Stephen Janis:
One thing I want
to note, I think what happened with the asylum process is now people have to
remain in Mexico, I believe. Just a little correction there or kind of
clarification. But yeah, I mean, as a reporter, is there any story that stands
out to you or something that sort of shows the cruelty and the inhumanity of
this or that has affected you in any way?
Natascha
Uhlmann:
I think there’s
so many, but unfortunately, they largely precede Trump, right? Even under Obama
we had kids in deportation hearings, and I remember reading their feet couldn’t
even touch the floor is how little they were. They didn’t know their last name
is how little they were. So unfortunately, this is a bipartisan affair, and I
think that it’s just a total abdication of leadership on behalf of the Dems,
and that handed us Trump. If you’re going to condemn Trump’s rhetoric and fall
all over yourselves to top it in the support for the Laken Riley Act… I don’t
know. It’s not only morally reprehensible, but yeah, it’s a total abdication of
leadership, and it’s just bad politics. You want to tell us come election time
that Trump’s a fascist, that this is the most important election of our lives.
But then if you’re going to fall right into place and advance his agenda, what
is the political calculus? Right.
Stephen Janis:
That’s a great
point.
Taya Graham:
I actually have
a dozen more questions I want to ask, but I want to make sure that I ask the
most important question, and this is for people who want to take action but
maybe let’s say they aren’t directly involved in a union, what are some ways
they can support immigrant workers and help create sanctuary workspaces or just
safe spaces in their own communities? And I’ll go to you first Moises and then
to you Natascha.
Moises Zavala:
A number of
things that they can do. One is they can reach out to a church in their
community, find out if their church is doing any work or is willing to do some
work and take on some of the responsibilities to create that support base in
the community. Talk to the schools. Obviously, contact a worker center like us.
We’d be more than happy to share the work in supporting our community. So
there’s a range of ways that they can support. They can contact their aldermen,
their elected officials, find out what is it that they’re doing. If it’s
obviously a state like in Illinois, what are they doing and how can they
participate to strengthen the work that those elected officials are doing? So
thank you for that question. That is what we need to be thinking about. How can
we incorporate and encourage others to have a role in this support base for
these workers?
Natascha
Uhlmann:
Yeah, there’s a
lot of good language you can include in your collective bargaining agreements.
The Chicago Teachers Union has some good language about how you don’t let ICE
through the door unless they got a signed warrant. But a teacher I spoke with
for a recent story with Sarah Lazar, teacher’s name was Catherine Zamarrón, she
made a really important point that good contract language is only useful if
people know their contract. Someone’s going to have to be the person when ICE
is at the door that says, “Hey, don’t open that door. We don’t have to let them
in.” So this piece I referenced at Labor Notes and Workday, Sarah Lazar and I
collected the best collective bargaining agreement language that we found with
these sorts of protections, protections against retaliation against nonmandated
audits, stuff you’re going to want in your contract. So you can find that on
both the Labor Notes and Workday Magazine websites.
But in addition,
I think worker centers and community groups also have a really important role
to play. There’s all the work Arise is doing, which has been integral. Escucha
Mi Voz Iowa faith-based community org has committed to having 6,000 one-on-one
conversations with church members in the area. And interestingly, they likened
it to how organizers build a union. Talking to people who don’t agree, it’s
going to be a slow process of building trust, of being in dialogue. It’s going
to be exceptionally frustrating, but you got to bring in people who don’t agree
or we’re just going to be talking to each other.
And finally, I
would just point to there are very practical things you can do in your
community. I spoke with one organizer who turns out a crowd when a community
member needs to go to an ICE check-in because ICE will generally not make
detentions during public events as a safety precaution for their agents. So
there’s a lot of stuff you can do. If you’re not in a union organized, reach
out to the one of the incredible worker centers supporting these organizing
efforts or to EWOC, the Emergency Workplace Organizing Committee. But I think
everyone has a role to play, and it’s going to take all of us.
Taya Graham:
Well, you know
what? We’re going to make a point of putting in our YouTube description perhaps
a link to that article that you wrote with Sarah Lazar. I think you might also
have some tips. That would be great. I think the same with you, Moises. At the
beginning, you held up what looked like a little pamphlet or handbook. Perhaps
we could post a link to that as well so that people can see for themselves
things that they can do if they want to help protect their fellow community
members. I want to thank you both so much for joining us for this emergency
livestream. We know we grabbed you last minute and we know you both have a lot
of important work to do, so we want to thank you so much for your time. I feel
like you want to add one thing, Moises?
Moises Zavala:
Yes, one thing,
very important, despite the fear that is being thrown at us, I think that it is
these moments that draw out the best in us to organize, to change, and to
create power. And we just got to remember that because our communities have
done that in the past, and we need to continue to do it today and teach it for
the future.
Taya Graham:
I’m so glad that
you ended us on such a positive note, to not give into fear, but that this is a
time where we can join together to do something positive. Thank you both again
for your time.
Stephen Janis:
Yes, thank you.
Taya Graham:
We really
appreciate you.
Natascha
Uhlmann:
Thank you so
much.
Moises Zavala:
Thank you.
Taya Graham:
Take care. Once
again, I want to thank our guests, Moises Zavala from Arise and Natascha
Uhlmann of Labor Notes for discussing this human rights issue with us.
Stephen Janis:
And get her book
Abolish Ice.
Taya Graham:
Yes, that’s
right. Thank you.
Stephen Janis:
A great book.
Taya Graham:
But most
importantly, we want to thank you for not only working in your communities to
provide protection, but teaching us how we can help. We appreciate your time
and your work, and we want to thank you again for joining us. And we also want
to thank everyone for watching and taking the time to listen and taking the
time to care. Our immigrant neighbors aren’t our enemies. They’re our friends,
our co-workers, and they’re even our family. Let’s keep sharing the things that
make our country truly great, being open, being innovative, being welcoming,
and being compassionate, and being a place where anyone who works hard at least
has a chance at the American dream. Thank you so much for joining us.
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